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Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby DeVietti_Marty » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:55 pm

Lots of pilots on launch and it looks like they all got some altitude and some distance. I had a great flight and blogged about it while waiting for my car to be driven back to me. Thanks Tom, Ron and Bob!

Here's the blog:

http://devietti.blogspot.com/2013/09/pine-mountain.html

Cheers,

Marty
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby Fast Eddy » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:03 pm

A Big Congrats to Dave Teal for his First X C flight from Pine to Ave 170 at the solar plants. Flew as we planned. Lots of issues in his flight. Will leave that for him to tell. Nice 50plus miles DAVE!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby galleta » Sat Sep 07, 2013 7:17 pm

killa! bad ass flights soldiers!!!
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby cortfly » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:26 pm

Beautiful pictures, Marty, epic flight..Im jealous :wink:
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby NMERider » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:41 pm

DeVietti_Marty wrote:...Here's the blog:

http://devietti.blogspot.com/2013/09/pi ... in.html....

Stellar! :D :D :D
Big kudos to Dizzy for his pair of great flights and nearly making it the beach.
Had a great chat w/ DTeal while driving home about his epic adventure. He was totally stoked and jazzed about how well Eddy coached him on his way.

I was too tired to get up at 5AM to pick up Dizzy then rendez vous w/ Dave and Fast Eddy so I slept in and went to Elsinore only to watch two friends speck out and then it blew down on us in 100+F heat. I broke down and cried and then broke down my wing :cry:
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then we drove to the other side of the lake, set up and hucked off 2-1/2 hours later....
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Adventures at Pine

Postby Faoro_Ron » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:15 am

We wait all year for Pine Mountain to turn on with the seasonal monsoonal patterns. Often, there are impediments or conflicts with bringing it all together: Drivers, vehicles, wind and weather all have to fall into place. In the past ten years a couple of big fires kept us out. This year it was the construction of the amazing new blacktop road. We waited patiently during this opening week with some nice glass-off flights. Saturday turned out to be the the first day of classic, late summer Pine flying that we all hope for.

The blipmaps were predicting 15K tops; we couldn't pass up the opportunity, despite the fact that Marty, Tom Pipkin, Bob Hurlbett and I had no driver. So we left Tom's car at the Sandpile and took Marty's to launch. SoCal XC League had the good fortune of scheduling a meet there and had some chase. Dave Teal kindly agreed to offer us potential chase with his driver, Fast Eddy. We arrived at launch at 10:30; all the SoCal pilots were off by 11:15 and I was the last of the Topa pilots to leave with help from Chris Grantham and the SoCal crew at 11:45.

As Tom Pipkin says, the variables always produce a wide range of options and adventures - no two days are the same. Today, Tom was unlucky. After climbing to almost 12,000 feet after launching, he ended up dry in Dry Canyon over the back. You never know. Once he was in the same place setting up to land, caught a thermal, joined me in the Antelope Valley and ended up flying over 70 miles to Mojave. We all got low in the Badlands, where you have to balance courage in finding thermals with terrible landing options. Being last has its advantages. I dove deeper over the Chute and back toward Guillermo with a twelve mph tailwind after hearing of the other pilots' struggles. It didn't seem so smart as I sank out and turned back west, realizing I was going nowhere in the good landing spots direction. Deep breath, got to find lift - it's part of the adventure. I got a slow drifter that took me back up to 9,000 feet and I cruised over the 50-50. The next set of thermals drew me up over Guillermo Mountain to the southeast. They were all very light lift, 60-200 fpm, and I marveled at how mellow the day was. I sailed into Lockwood Valley and spent 15 minutes or more in the ultimate slow cooker that lifted me up above 10K and I headed east under the developing big cumis. Those guys changed the flavor of the day dramatically and my vario and I started hyperventilating. I had to leave one big thermal at the end of the valley at 14,910 as it had cloud suck written all over it. Cloudbase was right around 15K. Marty was returning from the truck stop and I raced over Frazier Peak with a 42 mph groundspeed. Bob had run out of luck earlier on the north side of Lockwood and I considered landing to keep him company as Tom had secured a ride hitch-hiking and was returning with his car. The Antelope Valley is always enticing (the goal when flying our Mecca, Pine Mountain), but I didn't like the windspeed and the only big cumis were far away on the south side of the valley over the Liebre's.

So I turned around, joined by Marty, and a remarkable thing happened. We were now going 31 mph westbound! What interesting micro-meteorology - the convergence of two airmasses on this big air day. I tried to avoid the lift as I looked for Bob on the road. Now, here's what makes a good pilot and confirms Tom's saying about options and adventures. It never crossed my mind to continue westbound. Even tough I had crossed the Badlands twice on a previous occasion, I was cold and only thinking of landing as Tom neared Lockwood Valley in the car. Marty made the right decision to continue his remarkable flight - partly for reasons of safety. Lockwood was going off at 1:30 PM in the heat of the day! There were giant dust devils everywhere, some a hundred yards or more across. I was worried the whole time I descended and chose a huge field one quarter mile from Bob to put it down. There are some high voltage wires along the south side of the road. I didn't want to walk far in the 100 degree heat, but I sure wanted to give myself a couple of hundred feet clearance from those wires. I set up to do some figure 8's at the west end of the field; Bob told me it was blowing east at 20 on the ground. As soon as I was 500 feet AGL I started getting tossed in the strong thermic conditions. I still could have easily climbed out to cloudbase and followed Marty. Instead, on the last north leg of a figure 8 - when I was closest to the road and 50 feet off the ground turning south into the biggest part of the field - a big thermal blasted off in front of me. I rocked back; it turned my wing sideways and I fought for control. I fell out the back of the thermal, still turning without control and saw that I was now 20 feet higher than the power lines, sinking fast and headed straight toward them. I was given one brief second to make my decision: Turn back away from the lines and possibly land right on top of them or get drawn in backwards into them (the draw was strong in that direction) or go straight and try to clear them. Everything told me to ride it out. Naturally, the bottom seemed to fall out as I got closer and my wing speed and time slowed to a crawl. I may have let out a disconcerted comment. I lifted my legs and the bottom of my fat harness cleared the white insulator holding those big wires by less than six inches. I thumped into the dirt on the other side of the road at full speed. I sat there for a moment - kind of shook up - pondering the fine line between flying and frying. An adventure and a lesson. Don't land in Lockwood in the heat of the day.

Tom picked us up. We got Marty's car from launch, drove back to Ojai and had beer and hamburgers while we watched all the glass-off pilots float into town from Pine at 5:30 to 6:00 PM.

Two hour flight. Home with Bob by 7:00 PM. Thanks for buying me dinner, Marty!
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby dteal » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:43 am

Launched about 12:15 and sank out in the west rotor until way below the last knob. Got some lift there which eventually took me to 13K. Made a bee-line for Guillermo, but should have stayed more south on the shear line and where the cloud development was happening. Got there with 9500 and found lift again back to 13K. Headed to Frazier and boated around waiting for Fast Eddy on chase. Got to 14.8K there and could have gone higher but I was freezing cold and dived out of the lift band. It looked to me like cloud base was 16K - I just didn't dress warm enough... At this point my radio started going intermittent on transmit. Once Eddy was near the I5, I headed straight for the cloud that was forming between Quail lake and the Libre's. Once I got there and was getting good lift, I started debugging my radio issue. Finally pulled out my spare, installed the antenna, tuned it to 144.250 and was able to talk to Eddy and establish the game plan. Headed further east and bopped between 9500 and 11.5K. The shear line was working as expected and I could have flown a lot further, but I was toast (cold, tired, and somewhat motion sick). The first LZ that Eddy selected (by a liquor store - yea!!) looked good but the shear line was coming thru and dust devils were forming, so he moved me further east. Set her down using the bar-stuffed-to-my-ankles-elevator-approach by the solar panels at Avenue 170 in strong SW wind. The glider literally went straight down in that wind. My vario showed 52 miles back to Pine launch.

What a flight! My best ever and had three PR's: first time above 13K, first time into the Antelope Valley, and first time farther than 20 miles.

Thanks to Fast Eddy for coaching me through the flight!
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby Randall » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:09 am

Nice write-ups, guys. Congrats on the great flights! I'm not sure whether I should be jealous or relieved I couldn't make it out on Saturday. Pine on a day like that sure is a big stew of variables and potential outcomes, some wonderful and some not so...
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby NMERider » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:01 am

So no Pine cloudbase X/C video from me obviously. :(
But SB pilots might enjoy the sky show that was Elsinore.
Here's my sample footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjTVxJQKqPs :D
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby DeVietti_Marty » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:11 pm

You crack me up, Jonathan.
The part where "I broke down and cried, then I broke down my glider..."

The video is quite the promo, man, you didn't miss out at all! Wow!

Somebody looked like they were on the moon leaving Frazier for the desert on a PG....anyone have a story to tell?

Can't wait to hear all about the SUNDAY flights from Pine that took a squadron of Hangs to SB!! Let's hear those stories gentlemen!???

Cheers,

Marty
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Re: Pine Saturday 9-7-13

Postby NMERider » Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:30 pm

DeVietti_Marty wrote:....The video is quite the promo, man, you didn't miss out at all! Wow!

Somebody looked like they were on the moon leaving Frazier for the desert on a PG....anyone have a story to tell?

Can't wait to hear all about the SUNDAY flights from Pine that took a squadron of Hangs to SB!! Let's hear those stories gentlemen!???...

Thanks Marty.
I did get a genuinely new expereince on Saturday thanks to Doggone Bill and I got 3/4 of it recorded. The full 20-minute edit is rendering now and should be up by tonight.

On my way home from Elsinore I had a phone chat with Southside, who had opted for greener pastures or browner deserts OTB from Crestline. We were reminiscing about our dual flights from Pine to Frazier to the beach four years ago where we were hitting 15-16K and wispies galore. Would you believe I still have not done the video edit?! :lol: :lol: Unfortunately Crestline was mostly an OD bust. :(

Glad to hear Pine was more evenly represented on Sunday and I'd like to read some reports on this.
Cheers, Jonathan

EDIT: Here's the Elsinore flight: How Wild Was That?
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